Okay, so this is going to be a long one. I noted long ago that the verses that I consider controversial from the writings or Paul are pretty much all quotes. They are verses where Paul is quoting from the old testament. Proponents of “reformed” theology often quote them in support of their points. The educator in me cries foul! You cannot use a quote from a person making a quote from another person to make crucial points. Well maybe you can, but you have to be absolutely sure that both the author of the original quote and the author of the secondary point have intended the interpretation that you are trying to make. This post investigates how looking at a quote of a quote (actually a series of seperate quotes strung together) has led to interpretations which neither author intended. Here is my paper:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;
11 there is no one who understands;
there is no one who seeks God.
12 All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”[b]
13 “Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”[c]
“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”[d]
14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”[e]
15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
17 and the way of peace they do not know.”[f]
18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”[g]
The above is a quote from Romans 3 verses 10-19 – New International Version. The other day I was at a conference where the key note speaker used these verses to make the point that we are completely utterly dead and separated from God. Further, that we cannot on our own even respond to a call from God, that we cannot accept any time of rescue attempt by any exercise of our own free will. The speaker brought up the old analogy stating – that Jesus cannot throw us a lifeline and give us the choice to take it, instead Jesus must resurrect our dead souls and make us alive. He called this gift of new life – grace.
The speaker said that the word grace was from a Greek word that meant gift! The question is do we or do we not have the choice to accept this gift – this grace. The main point that the speaker was trying to make was that when we fully understand and are “overwhelmed” by God’s grace than we become worshipers. As the message continued one main point was that grace is not just amazing, but it is overwhelming. The speaker described an effort to go with a boogie board out into the ocean against some large waves and that time after time the waves rolled him right back up onto the beach until he gave in and gave up in his attempt to fight them. In his words, this gift, this grace is irresistible.
Of course, when I heard the “I” in the Calvinist TULIP acronym I was alarmed. The problem with the idea that grace is irresistible is the following:
- If grace is irresistible then only those who are given the gift of grace are saved and all those given the gift of grace are saved.
- Therefore, one of the two following must be true:
- God chooses to save some and God chooses not to save others. Meaning that God’s love then must not apply to everyone. Jesus work on the cross is not available to everyone.
- God chooses to save everyone.
I find it difficult to believe that God does not love everyone, or that Jesus only died for some, or that all are somehow saved. These positions are anti to the very purpose of our life on earth as described in the Bible. As I understand it, we were placed here on earth to be given a choice. Those who choose to live now and forever in God’s presence will get what they choose. Of course, they cannot earn this choice. They do not deserve this choice. Nevertheless, this choice is the gift, the grace that they are given. Those who choose to reject the gift, those who choose to reject the grace, they get their choice. A life separated from God’s presence – hell.
So, when I hear something that does not seem to fit into the purpose outlined in the preceding paragraph, I question it. I am not saying that I cannot be wrong. I suppose it it possible that I am misunderstanding things and that one of the options above could indeed be true. But either of those positions would have to be proven beyond doubt.
So, all this was to say, let’s look at those verses and see what they say.
The first thing I noticed about the verses quoted above was that the entire section is a quotation. Paul is quoting scripture. When a writer quotes another writer you have to look not only at the point of the secondary writer – Paul, but the point of the original writer(s.)
To see Paul’s main point you have to widen the view a bit. The speaker only quoted Paul’s quote. He then used the quote for a different purpose than Paul did. Let’s look the passage again with the surrounding text included.
Romans 3:9-20:
9 What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10 As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;
11 there is no one who understands;
there is no one who seeks God.
12 All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”[b]
13 “Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”[c]
“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”[d]
14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”[e]
15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
17 and the way of peace they do not know.”[f]
18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”[g]
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
The verses that Paul writes surrounding the quotation are Paul’s interpretation of the quotation. Paul’s interpretation is very clear. I underlined it. Paul is using those verses to prove that all are under the power of sin and that no one can be declared righteous by the law! To say we are under the power of sin is a far cry from saying that we cannot choose the gift of salvation when it is offered.
Okay, so now let’s look at the sources of the quote to see the intent of the original authors:
Psalms 14:1-3 and Psalms 53:1-3are duplicate Psalms that Paul has quoted. To interpret the Psalm you have to look at the whole thing:
1 The fool[a] says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.
2 The LORD looks down from heaven
on all mankind
to see if there are any who understand,
any who seek God.
3 All have turned away, all have become corrupt;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.
4 Do all these evildoers know nothing?
They devour my people as though eating bread;
they never call on the LORD.
5 But there they are, overwhelmed with dread,
for God is present in the company of the righteous.
6 You evildoers frustrate the plans of the poor,
but the LORD is their refuge.
7 Oh, that salvation for Israel would come out of Zion!
When the LORD restores his people,
let Jacob rejoice and Israel be glad!
Verse 2 and 3 alone seem to support the “everyone is completely dead” hypothesis. But verses 1 and 4 spell out the object of the Psalm: “The Fool”, “All these Evildoers.” Verse 5 acknowledges that there is a company of the righteous and that the Lord is their refuge.
Ecclesiastes 7:20 “Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous,
no one who does what is right and never sins.” This verse makes the point that no one is without sin, but it does not make the point that no one can respond to an offer of salvation from God.
Psalms 5:9 is quoted by Paul but I am showing verses 8 – 11 so that you can see who is the subject of the quote.
8 Lead me, LORD, in your righteousness
because of my enemies—
make your way straight before me.
9 Not a word from their mouth can be trusted;
their heart is filled with malice.
Their throat is an open grave;
with their tongues they tell lies.
10 Declare them guilty, O God!
Let their intrigues be their downfall.
Banish them for their many sins,
for they have rebelled against you.
11 But let all who take refuge in you be glad;
let them ever sing for joy.
Spread your protection over them,
that those who love your name may rejoice in you.
(I italicized the portion Paul quoted.)
Once again, David is speaking of two groups of people: his enemies, those who have rebelled against God and those who, like David, take refuge in God.
Psalms 140:3 is the next verse quoted by Paul. I am including verses 1-3 to establish that “evildoers” are the subject of the Psalm. I am also throwing in the concluding verse of the Psalm to show that David speaks of a “righteous” group separate from these evildoers.
Rescue me, LORD, from evildoers;
protect me from the violent,
2 who devise evil plans in their hearts
and stir up war every day.
3 They make their tongues as sharp as a serpent’s;
the poison of vipers is on their lips.[b]
13 Surely the righteous will praise your name,
and the upright will live in your presence.
Psalms 10:7 is the next verse quoted by Paul. Once again I am including the preceding verses to show that David is referring specifically to “evildoers.” I am also including enough of the following verses to show that David eventually gets around to addressing that not all are in this group of “evildoers” – that to David there is another group – the afflicted.
1 Why, LORD, do you stand far off?
Why do you hide yourself in times of trouble?
2 In his arrogance the wicked man hunts down the weak,
who are caught in the schemes he devises.
3 He boasts about the cravings of his heart;
he blesses the greedy and reviles the LORD.
4 In his pride the wicked man does not seek him;
in all his thoughts there is no room for God.
5 His ways are always prosperous;
your laws are rejected by[b] him;
he sneers at all his enemies.
6 He says to himself, “Nothing will ever shake me.”
He swears, “No one will ever do me harm.”
7 His mouth is full of lies and threats;
trouble and evil are under his tongue.
8 He lies in wait near the villages;
from ambush he murders the innocent.
His eyes watch in secret for his victims;
9 like a lion in cover he lies in wait.
He lies in wait to catch the helpless;
he catches the helpless and drags them off in his net.
10 His victims are crushed, they collapse;
they fall under his strength.
11 He says to himself, “God will never notice;
he covers his face and never sees.”
12 Arise, LORD! Lift up your hand, O God.
Do not forget the helpless.
13 Why does the wicked man revile God?
Why does he say to himself,
“He won’t call me to account”?
14 But you, God, see the trouble of the afflicted;
you consider their grief and take it in hand.
Psalms 36:1 is another verse quoted here by Paul. Once again, the original author, David is referring to Evildoers and as you read the entire Psalm it is obvious that David does not include himself within that group.
1 I have a message from God in my heart
concerning the sinfulness of the wicked:[b]
There is no fear of God
before their eyes.
2 In their own eyes they flatter themselves
too much to detect or hate their sin.
3 The words of their mouths are wicked and deceitful;
they fail to act wisely or do good.
4 Even on their beds they plot evil;
they commit themselves to a sinful course
and do not reject what is wrong.
5 Your love, LORD, reaches to the heavens,
your faithfulness to the skies.
6 Your righteousness is like the highest mountains,
your justice like the great deep.
You, LORD, preserve both people and animals.
7 How priceless is your unfailing love, O God!
People take refuge in the shadow of your wings.
8 They feast on the abundance of your house;
you give them drink from your river of delights.
9 For with you is the fountain of life;
in your light we see light.
10 Continue your love to those who know you,
your righteousness to the upright in heart.
11 May the foot of the proud not come against me,
nor the hand of the wicked drive me away.
12 See how the evildoers lie fallen—
thrown down, not able to rise!
Before I make my final point and refer to my final quote, let me recap what we have so far. So far you can see that Paul has quoted not just from one place in the Old Testament but he has quoted a bunch of different Psalms by David. When you read these quotes of David put together by Paul in the way that Paul has put them together it does look like maybe we are “uncapable” of responding to an offer of salvation from God. But, remember, Paul himself asserted that his purpose for these verses was to say only that “All are under the power of sin.” Looking at the context of each of the verses individually, however, you see that David was talking only about the evildoers. In each Psalm David referred to the evildoers and he referred to others. So far I cannot see how you can conclude from these verses that man is incapable of making a choice regarding salvation. I do not see how these verses can support the idea of irresistible grace. On the contrarty, David often reffered to people like himself. To people who did seek after him!
Finally, let us look at one more verse that Paul has quoted in his text. Paul quoted from the book of Isaiah, Chapter 59, verses 7 and 8. At first, as I read this chapter I was struck by the fact that the subject was not referred to as a separate “Evildoer.” This time the subject, the people being referred to is the nation of Israel. I went back to the preceding Chapter to read that God is calling them out for their corporate sins. The nation on one hand is calling out to God and seeking his help but on the other hand they are continuing to live in their sin and it is their sin that keeps their prayers from reaching God.
Once again, the quoted verse is not saying that all mankind is forever incapable of responding to God. It does not say that all mankind is permanently not seeking God. Indeed, the exciting thing about this Chapter is that it shows the contrary. However, ineffective, these people ARE SEEKING GOD. Look specifically at verses 9 -11: “We look for light, but all is darkness; for brightness, but we walk in deep shadows. Like the blind we grope along the wall, feeling our way like people without eyes. At midday we stumble as if it were twilight; among the strong, we are like the dead. We all growl like bears; we moan mournfully like doves. We look for justice, but find none; for deliverance, but it is far away.”
These verses describe just the opposite of the need for irresistible grace. These verses describe mankind that is indeed hungry for salvation. These verses describe men that are not dead, but instead they are blind. They are groping. They are striving. They are trying to earn and find their way to salvation. At the end of the Chapter the solution is provided. When they repent God provides salvation. Look now at the Chapter in its whole:
Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear. But your iniquities have separated you from your God;
your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear.
(God outlines their Sins) 3 For your hands are stained with blood, your fingers with guilt.
Your lips have spoken falsely, and your tongue mutters wicked things.
4 No one calls for justice; no one pleads a case with integrity.
They rely on empty arguments, they utter lies; they conceive trouble and give birth to evil. 5 They hatch the eggs of vipers and spin a spider’s web.
Whoever eats their eggs will die, and when one is broken, an adder is hatched. Their cobwebs are useless for clothing; they cannot cover themselves with what they make. Their deeds are evil deeds, and acts of violence are in their hands. Their feet rush into sin; they are swift to shed innocent blood. They pursue evil schemes; acts of violence mark their ways. The way of peace they do not know; there is no justice in their paths.
They have turned them into crooked roads; no one who walks along them will know peace.
9 So justice is far from us, and righteousness does not reach us.
(In spite of their sin they are seeking salvation:) We look for light, but all is darkness; for brightness, but we walk in deep shadows.Like the blind we grope along the wall, feeling our way like people without eyes. At midday we stumble as if it were twilight; among the strong, we are like the dead. We all growl like bears; we moan mournfully like doves. We look for justice, but find none; for deliverance, but it is far away.
(Once again it is our sin that seperates us:) 12 For our offenses are many in your sight and our sins testify against us. Our offenses are ever with us, and we acknowledge our iniquities: rebellion and treachery against the LORD, turning our backs on our God, inciting revolt and oppression, uttering lies our hearts have conceived. So justice is driven back, and righteousness stands at a distance; truth has stumbled in the streets, honesty cannot enter. Truth is nowhere to be found, and whoever shuns evil becomes a prey.The LORD looked and was displeased that there was no justice. He saw that there was no one, he was appalled that there was no one to intervene;
so his own arm achieved salvation for him, and his own righteousness sustained him. He put on righteousness as his breastplate, and the helmet of salvation on his head; he put on the garments of vengeance and wrapped himself in zeal as in a cloak. According to what they have done, so will he repay wrath to his enemies
and retribution to his foes; he will repay the islands their due.
(But still salvation will come to those who repent:) From the west, people will fear the name of the LORD, and from the rising of the sun, they will revere his glory. For he will come like a pent-up flood that the breath of the LORD drives along.[a]
“The Redeemer will come to Zion, to those in Jacob who repent of their sins,” declares the LORD.
21 “As for me, this is my covenant with them,” says the LORD. “My Spirit, who is on you, will not depart from you, and my words that I have put in your mouth will always be on your lips, on the lips of your children and on the lips of their descendants—from this time on and forever,” says the LORD.